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November 30, 2012, 04:17:50 PM
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i strongly believe that BTC cgminer for GPU will be dead in a matter of weeks.
Thus, all the efforts now for cgminer development should be in the direction of LTC (scrypt) Smiley

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November 30, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
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What I really worry about, is that new hardware will continue to come out frequently enough that people end up on a cycle of investing in hardware that basically never pays itself off as slightly newer hardware and higher diffs keep coming out. Sure at some stage the limits of technology will be reached, but given the best tech at the moment is going to be 65nm ASICs when CPUs are 28nm devices, I can see the cycle going on for some time, and then even if btc mining ASICs end up in line with CPU manufacturers, they still continue to evolve over time. Dramatic profits from ASICs will likely only last a couple of weeks at most for a lucky few. The rest of you who paid for devices that don't even exist yet will not be making any magical profit no matter how big the hashrate appears. Your proportion of the total bitcoin hashrate will remain pitiful.

Sigh...
There's definitely some merit to this, but remember, the exact same thing happens with Video Cards, every 9-12 months the new GPU cards hit the market and are more efficient at mining.  Of course video cards are much less expensive than the current round of ASIC's and can be resold.
Not *that* much more expensive.  A 7990 will run you real close to what a 74GH/s bASIC will.

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Show me a single person who bought a 7990 for mining purposes.

@Meatball - While new video cards came out every 9-12 months, not all of them were *that* much better at mining. The 5xxx cards were great, and the 6xxx cards were only a minor improvement, if that. The 7xxx cards brought higher speed and lower power, but not enough to make the 5xxx useless or unprofitable in any way. I'm hoping ASICs will be similar to this: 2nd and 3rd gen ASICs might be faster and/or use less power, but the 1st gen will still be profitable for quite a while.

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November 30, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
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What I really worry about, is that new hardware will continue to come out frequently enough that people end up on a cycle of investing in hardware that basically never pays itself off as slightly newer hardware and higher diffs keep coming out. Sure at some stage the limits of technology will be reached, but given the best tech at the moment is going to be 65nm ASICs when CPUs are 28nm devices, I can see the cycle going on for some time, and then even if btc mining ASICs end up in line with CPU manufacturers, they still continue to evolve over time. Dramatic profits from ASICs will likely only last a couple of weeks at most for a lucky few. The rest of you who paid for devices that don't even exist yet will not be making any magical profit no matter how big the hashrate appears. Your proportion of the total bitcoin hashrate will remain pitiful.

Sigh...
There's definitely some merit to this, but remember, the exact same thing happens with Video Cards, every 9-12 months the new GPU cards hit the market and are more efficient at mining.  Of course video cards are much less expensive than the current round of ASIC's and can be resold.
Not *that* much more expensive.  A 7990 will run you real close to what a 74GH/s bASIC will.

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Show me a single person who bought a 7990 for mining purposes.

I didn't say anyone was doing it.  I was simply responding to the "video cards are much less expensive" quote.  I could also say a 7970 will be equivalent of a 37GH/s bASIC.

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November 30, 2012, 05:18:46 PM
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There's definitely some merit to this, but remember, the exact same thing happens with Video Cards, every 9-12 months the new GPU cards hit the market and are more efficient at mining.  Of course video cards are much less expensive than the current round of ASIC's and can be resold.
Not *that* much more expensive.  A 7990 will run you real close to what a 74GH/s bASIC will.

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Show me a single person who bought a 7990 for mining purposes.
I didn't say anyone was doing it.  I was simply responding to the "video cards are much less expensive" quote.  I could also say a 7970 will be equivalent of a 37GH/s bASIC.

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November 30, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
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i used and 12.8 drivers with 2.7 SDK and 11.11 with 2.5 SDK - no result((
will try 12.4 with 2.7 SDK tomorrow.....
with other drivers except 11.6 my comp reboots((
Well IIRC, scrypt requires 2.6 or newer, so 2.5 is out. 12.8 with the included ocl runtime should be your best bet. Idk then.  Tongue
All done!
So the issue was in APP SDK and DRIVER
On my XP only APP SDK 2.7+Catalyst 11.6 was succesful
All other combinations was not working
but cgminer gave me only 140 khash but reaper 410 on my 6950
it's all i could squeeze out of cgminer....((
reaper was better.. don't know why...

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November 30, 2012, 08:20:01 PM
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What I really worry about, is that new hardware will continue to come out frequently enough that people end up on a cycle of investing in hardware that basically never pays itself off as slightly newer hardware and higher diffs keep coming out. Sure at some stage the limits of technology will be reached, but given the best tech at the moment is going to be 65nm ASICs when CPUs are 28nm devices, I can see the cycle going on for some time, and then even if btc mining ASICs end up in line with CPU manufacturers, they still continue to evolve over time. Dramatic profits from ASICs will likely only last a couple of weeks at most for a lucky few. The rest of you who paid for devices that don't even exist yet will not be making any magical profit no matter how big the hashrate appears. Your proportion of the total bitcoin hashrate will remain pitiful.

Sigh...
There's definitely some merit to this, but remember, the exact same thing happens with Video Cards, every 9-12 months the new GPU cards hit the market and are more efficient at mining.  Of course video cards are much less expensive than the current round of ASIC's and can be resold.
The resale and multipurpose nature of them is what makes the equation so different though. My 7970s are selling for more than half of what I bought them for. Though I had to invest the money in the first place, there is still that extra return on selling them at the end, provided you don't try to keep them forever.

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November 30, 2012, 09:31:42 PM
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What I really worry about, is that new hardware will continue to come out frequently enough that people end up on a cycle of investing in hardware that basically never pays itself off as slightly newer hardware and higher diffs keep coming out. Sure at some stage the limits of technology will be reached, but given the best tech at the moment is going to be 65nm ASICs when CPUs are 28nm devices, I can see the cycle going on for some time, and then even if btc mining ASICs end up in line with CPU manufacturers, they still continue to evolve over time. Dramatic profits from ASICs will likely only last a couple of weeks at most for a lucky few. The rest of you who paid for devices that don't even exist yet will not be making any magical profit no matter how big the hashrate appears. Your proportion of the total bitcoin hashrate will remain pitiful.

Sigh...

There's definitely some merit to this, but remember, the exact same thing happens with Video Cards, every 9-12 months the new GPU cards hit the market and are more efficient at mining.  Of course video cards are much less expensive than the current round of ASIC's and can be resold.

Well the 7xxx were less than double the 6xxx

But the 6xxx were roughly about the same as the 5xxx weren't they?

... and if GPU's were still mining away when 8xxx's came out, I'd not be surprised if there wasn't anything like a 2x gain from 7xxx to 8xxx

As ckolivas mentioned, GPU BTC mining is not the target of the companies that produce the products
If it was, then the next GPU's would beat the ASICs ... Tongue

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November 30, 2012, 09:33:23 PM
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What I really worry about, is that new hardware will continue to come out frequently enough that people end up on a cycle of investing in hardware that basically never pays itself off as slightly newer hardware and higher diffs keep coming out. Sure at some stage the limits of technology will be reached, but given the best tech at the moment is going to be 65nm ASICs when CPUs are 28nm devices, I can see the cycle going on for some time, and then even if btc mining ASICs end up in line with CPU manufacturers, they still continue to evolve over time. Dramatic profits from ASICs will likely only last a couple of weeks at most for a lucky few. The rest of you who paid for devices that don't even exist yet will not be making any magical profit no matter how big the hashrate appears. Your proportion of the total bitcoin hashrate will remain pitiful.

Sigh...
There's definitely some merit to this, but remember, the exact same thing happens with Video Cards, every 9-12 months the new GPU cards hit the market and are more efficient at mining.  Of course video cards are much less expensive than the current round of ASIC's and can be resold.
The resale and multipurpose nature of them is what makes the equation so different though. My 7970s are selling for more than half of what I bought them for. Though I had to invest the money in the first place, there is still that extra return on selling them at the end, provided you don't try to keep them forever.


There is definitely a dark side to ASIC.  Mainly this will depend on the business practices of the vendors in how willing they are to milk the market while depreciation is ever present.

Even with power consumption GPU was a relatively safe bet.


It's unfortunate that ASIC wasn't taken on in a community effort.  ASIC's could have been marketed using a cost plus model instead of price point being indexed against price/difficulty.

The price/difficulty business model will suck (us dry).

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November 30, 2012, 09:55:14 PM
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CGMiner attempting undesired conection to IP in Germany on every primary pool fail. Dare to "explain" it a bit?



It's a hack I put in there that sees your specific pool usernames and steals your coins ...

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November 30, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
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CGMiner attempting undesired conection to IP in Germany on every primary pool fail. Dare to "explain" it a bit?
It's a hack I put in there that sees your specific pool usernames and steals your coins ...
ZOMG!

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November 30, 2012, 10:25:54 PM
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CGMiner attempting undesired conection to IP in Germany on every primary pool fail. Dare to "explain" it a bit?


I'd say you've been compromised.  Did you get cgminer from a reputable source?

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November 30, 2012, 10:31:25 PM
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CGMiner attempting undesired conection to IP in Germany on every primary pool fail. Dare to "explain" it a bit?






You sir, imply some very serious allegations and I suggest you consult your lawyers before posting such drivel before I sue you for libel.

You are connecting to 50BTC.com and this is what 50BTC is sending you:
 [2012-12-01 09:29:51] HTTP hdr(X-Long-Polling): http://5.9.207.236:8331/LP                    

That address is where 50BTC's longpoll comes from. If you don't want to connect to there, use a different pool.

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November 30, 2012, 10:37:21 PM
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subSTANDARD being a dipshit again?

Hmmm...
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November 30, 2012, 10:40:50 PM
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That blunt stupidity just made my day. Thanks SUBstandard.

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November 30, 2012, 10:48:02 PM
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CGMiner attempting undesired conection to IP in Germany on every primary pool fail. Dare to "explain" it a bit?
It's a hack I put in there that sees your specific pool usernames and steals your coins ...

Dang, how exactly I forgot to put you on ignore list?

Fixed!

Bye, retard.
Wow - got my first ignore 'change' on my display - always wondered what it shows.

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December 01, 2012, 12:41:41 AM
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 cgminer version 2.9.5 - Started: [2012-11-30 18:39:27]
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 (5s):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s | Q:9  A:0  R:0  HW:0  E:0%  U:0.0/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 12  SS: 0  DW: 5  NB: 2  LW: 20  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 0.0
 Connected to coinotron.com with LP as user Nolo.5
 Block: 2eee5f52bb986e0aa827f861...  Started: [18:39:30]  Best share: 0
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 [P]ool management [G]PU management [S ]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  51.0C 1216RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
 GPU 1:  44.5C 1244RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
 GPU 2:  39.0C 1237RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
 GPU 3:  39.5C 1270RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [2012-11-30 18:39:27] Thread 1 being disabled
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Error -5: Enqueueing kernel onto command queue. (clEnqueu
eNDRangeKernel)
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] GPU 2 failure, disabling!
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Thread 2 being disabled
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Error -5: Enqueueing kernel onto command queue. (clEnqueu
eNDRangeKernel)
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] GPU 3 failure, disabling!
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Thread 3 being disabled
 [2012-11-30 18:39:30] LONGPOLL from pool 0 detected new block


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December 01, 2012, 01:02:12 AM
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cgminer version 2.9.5 - Started: [2012-11-30 18:39:27]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s | Q:9  A:0  R:0  HW:0  E:0%  U:0.0/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 12  SS: 0  DW: 5  NB: 2  LW: 20  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 0.0
 Connected to coinotron.com with LP as user Nolo.5
 Block: 2eee5f52bb986e0aa827f861...  Started: [18:39:30]  Best share: 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [G]PU management [S ]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  51.0C 1216RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
 GPU 1:  44.5C 1244RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
 GPU 2:  39.0C 1237RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
 GPU 3:  39.5C 1270RPM | OFF  / 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I:18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [2012-11-30 18:39:27] Thread 1 being disabled
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Error -5: Enqueueing kernel onto command queue. (clEnqueu
eNDRangeKernel)
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] GPU 2 failure, disabling!
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Thread 2 being disabled
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Error -5: Enqueueing kernel onto command queue. (clEnqueu
eNDRangeKernel)
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] GPU 3 failure, disabling!
 [2012-11-30 18:39:28] Thread 3 being disabled
 [2012-11-30 18:39:30] LONGPOLL from pool 0 detected new block


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#define CL_OUT_OF_RESOURCES                         -5

Combination of your current graphics requirements and your choice of settings for your hardware is too high.

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Thus, all the efforts now for cgminer development should be in the direction of LTC (scrypt) Smiley
I only work on something if there's an incentive of some sort.

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December 01, 2012, 09:10:18 PM
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Been having random crashes ever since I upgraded to 2.9.5 from 2.4.x. My install is 1½ years old Ubuntu 11.04, with 11.6 drivers and 2.4 SDK I believe. Runs fine for a day or so, and this happens on both a 4x 5970 machine and a 5x 58xx one.

It screws up the screen output a bit when it crashes, and looks like this:



Any ideas? Should I just downgrade back to 2.4 as that seemed to work, I mainly updated due to stratum but I suppose that's not really necessary atm.
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Been having random crashes ever since I upgraded to 2.9.5 from 2.4.x. My install is 1½ years old Ubuntu 11.04, with 11.6 drivers and 2.4 SDK I believe. Runs fine for a day or so, and this happens on both a 4x 5970 machine and a 5x 58xx one.

It screws up the screen output a bit when it crashes, and looks like this:
Any ideas? Should I just downgrade back to 2.4 as that seemed to work, I mainly updated due to stratum but I suppose that's not really necessary atm.
Absolutely do not downgrade please. Are you running with a pool, backup or otherwise, with GBT at all? There is still one bug when mining on GBT which is only fixed in git. Alternatively run a debug build with core dumps enabled and get a backtrace if you know how.

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