OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.1

[tiberiandusk]

All my life my computers are always doing something so they are always on. They last for years and years and years with almost no problems. 6 months of always on should never kill anything unless it is running abnormally hot.

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[kano]

All my life my computers are always doing something so they are always on. They last for years and years and years with almost no problems. 6 months of always on should never kill anything unless it is running abnormally hot.

6 months should regularly kill things if you have enough of them.
It's called variance.

Yes I have computers that are on 24/7 and all the servers for my clients are on 24/7
Once in a while something fails among all that hardware ...

[amigaman]

@tiberiandusk:
ask Google how short lived usual Server HDDs are.
They have lots of thousands of them, and they saw what the datasheet numbers really meant.

Also, your computers may be powered 24/7 but i doubt they have to do work full load like mining is.
Since few years the hardware mostly sleeps and turns a lot of unneeded parts off, and wakes them up in milliseconds if needed.
That induces stress in the capacitors and the power supply, but on the other hand reduces heat and overall current consumption, which makes the stress wear less.

[tiberiandusk]

I do 3D and my computer is rendering most of the time. When I'm not rendering it's folding@home or seti@home or running as a server etc.

[amigaman]

i can not tell about seti or folding, but a server usually does almost nothing (file or email), rendering does use the components, but not as heavy as mining, at least what i have tried.

[Krak]

I need some help here  anti virus seems to be detecting libpdcurses.dll as a key logger is this a false positive as its also been reported elsewhere on ltc forums that its a keylogger and i goggled this and also thrown up a zillion pages for been a keylogger too

Readme file. Read it. Yes, it is a false positive.

[sharky112065]

I need some help here  anti virus seems to be detecting libpdcurses.dll as a key logger is this a false positive as its also been reported elsewhere on ltc forums that its a keylogger and i goggled this and also thrown up a zillion pages for been a keylogger too

It is indeed a false positive. If you are unsure you can always download the latest source from ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/ and build it using the instructions in the included windows-build.txt file. It takes less than 30 minutes to set up your MinGW build environment. I'm assuming you are talking about the Windows version of Cgminer because most people that complain about it are Windows users.

If the download site does not work and you have those build instructions you could use git to download it as well.

CK, maybe it would fend off these kind of posts if your downloads links for windows binaries first went to a warning page that warns in bold that a false positive on their AV software could happen. As we know a lot of people do not read the README file first. Some people could be running a really old version that never got flagged and then upgraded not thinking that they needed to read the README. I know it would be a PITA to add that extra step, but maybe it would cut down the frustration for both you and the people that don't bother to take the time to read the README.

Edit: libpdcurses.dll Doh... of course it is Windows. I did not need to assume anything, it was all right there in your post.

[burger]

I need some help here  anti virus seems to be detecting libpdcurses.dll as a key logger is this a false positive as its also been reported elsewhere on ltc forums that its a keylogger and i goggled this and also thrown up a zillion pages for been a keylogger too

You can take the dll file from latest bfgminer, that should be recompiled so that anti virus programs don't give false positives.

[tiberiandusk]

Botnets have been mining so they flag pretty much all miners as a trojan because they assume you didn't install it intentionally.

[monstrs]

All my life my computers are always doing something so they are always on. They last for years and years and years with almost no problems. 6 months of always on should never kill anything unless it is running abnormally hot.

Me too, but that one misterious card has been very tricky. So far good with lowered clock frequencies.

[DavinciJ15]

Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?

Thanks

[Krak]

Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?

Thanks

In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a difficulty 2 share).

The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.

[ChipGeek]

Con, can you tell us anything about the progress with BFL ASIC support?  Please choose one of the following:

1.  I can't talk about it, I'm under NDA.
2.  I've logged in remotely to their servers and have poked around a little.
3.  I've logged in remotely and have already begun creating code for BFL's ASIC to work with cgminer.
4.  I have no plans to log in remotely to BFL and won't do anything until they send me some real hardware.
5.  I have real hardware in hand and am working on the code.
6.  I won't support BFL ASIC because I won't develop for them for free and they haven't paid me yet.

No NDA, no physical hardware, no remote access, not even a protocol document to work from. Nothing has been done yet. Will start once I at least get protocol docs.

Sometime next year I'm thinking

No it will be in 4 to 6 weeks. 

[The00Dustin]

Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?

Thanks

In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a share when the pool is requiring a minimum difficulty 2 share).

The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.

FTFY, grammar isn't perfect, but point is the submitted difficulty doesn't matter, the minimum does, and this is only true if difficulty varies per miner.  Technically, if a pool only accepted minimum difficulty 2 shares, period, then every share submitted would be paid the same amount, but difficulty 1 shares wouldn't be paid anything (and no shares would get paid double).

[Krak]

Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?

Thanks

In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a share when the pool is requiring a minimum difficulty 2 share).

The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.

FTFY, grammar isn't perfect, but point is the submitted difficulty doesn't matter, the minimum does, and this is only true if difficulty varies per miner.  Technically, if a pool only accepted minimum difficulty 2 shares, period, then every share submitted would be paid the same amount, but difficulty 1 shares wouldn't be paid anything (and no shares would get paid double).

This was already made obvious in the context though.

[The00Dustin]

This was already made obvious in the context though.

It wasn't obvious to me in your post, and Davinci asked while clueless, so I' not sure what context you are referring to, but my post was simply a "better safe than sorry" type post.  To be fair, after re-reading your post, I think adding only the bolded word "minimum" would have made it obvious to me (though still not well-worded).

[DavinciJ15]

Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?

Thanks

In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a difficulty 2 share).

The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.

Thanks this makes sense and I understood that share difficulty of 2 would only be accepted and share diff of 1 will be rejected as I see that cgminer has a message called "Old Difficulty" meaning it can not be submitted or it will be rejected.

(and no shares would get paid double).

Huh? What?

[monstrs]

Con, can you tell us anything about the progress with BFL ASIC support?  Please choose one of the following:

1.  I can't talk about it, I'm under NDA.
2.  I've logged in remotely to their servers and have poked around a little.
3.  I've logged in remotely and have already begun creating code for BFL's ASIC to work with cgminer.
4.  I have no plans to log in remotely to BFL and won't do anything until they send me some real hardware.
5.  I have real hardware in hand and am working on the code.
6.  I won't support BFL ASIC because I won't develop for them for free and they haven't paid me yet.

No NDA, no physical hardware, no remote access, not even a protocol document to work from. Nothing has been done yet. Will start once I at least get protocol docs.

Sometime next year I'm thinking

No it will be in 4 to 6 weeks. 

So ASIC support will be in 4-6 weeks? Or are you talking of availability of asics?

[MrTeal]

So ASIC support will be in 4-6 weeks? Or are you talking of availability of asics?

It's a joke, for the longest time BFL shipment time for the Singles was listed as 4 to 6 weeks despite being months late.

[The00Dustin]

(and no shares would get paid double).

Huh? What?

If a pool requires miner 1 to submit minimum difficulty 2 shares, but miner 2 can submit minimum difficulty 1 shares, then each share submitted by miner 1 will be paid twice as much as each share submitted by miner 2.  If all miners are required to submit minimum difficulty 2 shares, then no miner's shares are worth more than any other miner's shares.