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November 15, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
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Hi Ben,
Is this topic about http://avalon-asics.com ?
Are they real? I can't see any contact details except a webform, usually scammers do this?!
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November 15, 2013, 12:03:46 PM
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So it hasn't been an hour since my last post (and last power cycle of my 4 module avalon) and here I am with the 120ghs avalon mining away at 5ghs. WTF is wrong with these things?

I'd be better off with 400 Block Eruptors.
Make a screenshot of your Cgminer Configuration page, Cgminer Status page and copy/paste the contents of Cgminer API Log page. We need more information  to help you.


Thanks for the offer to help Ben. FWIW, I have also tried to set the clock speed to the slowest setting and this thing still craps out.



I entered the restart cgminer and reboot the Avalon methods mentioned above in this thread into the Avalon that keeps crashing so the API log probably isnt going to show you anything since it was up and running when I got up this morning. Here it is anyway.

[Firmware Version] => 20130723
cgminer-37815e0
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Reply was 'STATUS=S,When=1384516171,Code=70,Msg=CGMiner stats,Description=cgminer 3.3.1|STATS=0,ID=AVA0,Elapsed=2962,Calls=0,Wait=0.000000,Max=0.000000,Min=99999999.000000,baud=115200,miner_count=32,asic_count=10,timeout=32,frequency=385,fan1=2400,fan2=0,fan3=2400,temp1=22,temp2=47,temp3=47,temp_max=48,no_matching_work=245,match_work_count1=2497,match_work_count2=2601,match_work_count3=2603,match_work_count4=2628,match_work_count5=2746,match_work_count6=2585,match_work_count7=2751,match_work_count8=2722,match_work_count9=2687,match_work_count10=2735,match_work_count11=2605,match_work_count12=2578,match_work_count13=2655,match_work_count14=2636,match_work_count15=2568,match_work_count16=2595,match_work_count17=2566,match_work_count18=2632,match_work_count19=2629,match_work_count20=2741,match_work_count21=2685,match_work_count22=2616,match_work_count23=2635,match_work_count24=2618,match_work_count25=2669,match_work_count26=2564,match_work_count27=2625,match_work_count28=2647,match_work_count29=2749,match_work_count30=2707,match_work_count31=2616,match_work_count32=2765,USB Pipe=1 0/5/0 1384515510,USB Delay=r0 0.000000 w0 0.000000|STATS=1,ID=POOL0,Elapsed=2962,Calls=0,Wait=0.000000,Max=0.000000,Min=99999999.000000,Pool Calls=0,Pool Attempts=0,Pool Wait=0.000000,Pool Max=0.000000,Pool Min=99999999.000000,Pool Av=0.000000,Work Had Roll Time=false,Work Can Roll=false,Work Had Expire=false,Work Roll Time=0,Work Diff=64.00000000,Min Diff=2.00000000,Max Diff=64.00000000,Min Diff Count=80,Max Diff Count=74494,Times Sent=1674,Bytes Sent=191326,Times Recv=1794,Bytes Recv=193327,Net Bytes Sent=191326,Net Bytes Recv=193327|STATS=2,ID=POOL1,Elapsed=2962,Calls=0,Wait=0.000000,Max=0.000000,Min=99999999.000000,Pool Calls=0,Pool Attempts=0,Pool Wait=0.000000,Pool Max=0.000000,Pool Min=99999999.000000,Pool Av=0.000000,Work Had Roll Time=false,Work Can Roll=false,Work Had Expire=false,Work Roll Time=0,Work Diff=0.00000000,Min Diff=0.00000000,Max Diff=0.00000000,Min Diff Count=0,Max Diff Count=0,Times Sent=2,Bytes Sent=144,Times Recv=4,Bytes Recv=1150,Net Bytes Sent=144,Net Bytes Recv=1150|'
[STATUS] =>
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   [STATUS] => S
   [When] => 1384516171
  
Code:
=> 70
   [Msg] => CGMiner stats
   [Description] => cgminer 3.3.1
)
[STATS0] =>
(
   [STATS] => 0
   [ID] => AVA0
   [Elapsed] => 2962
   [Calls] => 0
   [Wait] => 0.000000
   [Max] => 0.000000
   [Min] => 99999999.000000
   [baud] => 115200
   [miner_count] => 32
   [asic_count] => 10
   [timeout] => 32
   [frequency] => 385
   [fan1] => 2400
   [fan2] => 0
   [fan3] => 2400
   [temp1] => 22
   [temp2] => 47
   [temp3] => 47
   [temp_max] => 48
   [no_matching_work] => 245
   [match_work_count1] => 2497
   [match_work_count2] => 2601
   [match_work_count3] => 2603
   [match_work_count4] => 2628
   [match_work_count5] => 2746
   [match_work_count6] => 2585
   [match_work_count7] => 2751
   [match_work_count8] => 2722
   [match_work_count9] => 2687
   [match_work_count10] => 2735
   [match_work_count11] => 2605
   [match_work_count12] => 2578
   [match_work_count13] => 2655
   [match_work_count14] => 2636
   [match_work_count15] => 2568
   [match_work_count16] => 2595
   [match_work_count17] => 2566
   [match_work_count18] => 2632
   [match_work_count19] => 2629
   [match_work_count20] => 2741
   [match_work_count21] => 2685
   [match_work_count22] => 2616
   [match_work_count23] => 2635
   [match_work_count24] => 2618
   [match_work_count25] => 2669
   [match_work_count26] => 2564
   [match_work_count27] => 2625
   [match_work_count28] => 2647
   [match_work_count29] => 2749
   [match_work_count30] => 2707
   [match_work_count31] => 2616
   [match_work_count32] => 2765
   [USB Pipe] => 1 0/5/0 1384515510
   [USB Delay] => r0 0.000000 w0 0.000000
)
[STATS1] =>
(
   [STATS] => 1
   [ID] => POOL0
   [Elapsed] => 2962
   [Calls] => 0
   [Wait] => 0.000000
   [Max] => 0.000000
   [Min] => 99999999.000000
   [Pool Calls] => 0
   [Pool Attempts] => 0
   [Pool Wait] => 0.000000
   [Pool Max] => 0.000000
   [Pool Min] => 99999999.000000
   [Pool Av] => 0.000000
   [Work Had Roll Time] => false
   [Work Can Roll] => false
   [Work Had Expire] => false
   [Work Roll Time] => 0
   [Work Diff] => 64.00000000
   [Min Diff] => 2.00000000
   [Max Diff] => 64.00000000
   [Min Diff Count] => 80
   [Max Diff Count] => 74494
   [Times Sent] => 1674
   [Bytes Sent] => 191326
   [Times Recv] => 1794
   [Bytes Recv] => 193327
   [Net Bytes Sent] => 191326
   [Net Bytes Recv] => 193327
)
[STATS2] =>
(
   [STATS] => 2
   [ID] => POOL1
   [Elapsed] => 2962
   [Calls] => 0
   [Wait] => 0.000000
   [Max] => 0.000000
   [Min] => 99999999.000000
   [Pool Calls] => 0
   [Pool Attempts] => 0
   [Pool Wait] => 0.000000
   [Pool Max] => 0.000000
   [Pool Min] => 99999999.000000
   [Pool Av] => 0.000000
   [Work Had Roll Time] => false
   [Work Can Roll] => false
   [Work Had Expire] => false
   [Work Roll Time] => 0
   [Work Diff] => 0.00000000
   [Min Diff] => 0.00000000
   [Max Diff] => 0.00000000
   [Min Diff Count] => 0
   [Max Diff Count] => 0
   [Times Sent] => 2
   [Bytes Sent] => 144
   [Times Recv] => 4
   [Bytes Recv] => 1150
   [Net Bytes Sent] => 144
   [Net Bytes Recv] => 1150
)
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November 15, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
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If the restart cgminer and reboot the Avalon methods work and keep this stupid thing hashing then I guess I'm OK with that. My last ditch effort would probably be to connect these Avalons to a PC running the latest cgminer and call it a day. Thats of course taking into assumption that the miner boards and FPGA controller boards are not my problem. I think its the suck ass TP-Link boards myself because one of the 4 Avalons that I bought wouldn't connect and mine out of the gate.
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November 15, 2013, 01:47:42 PM
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If the restart cgminer and reboot the Avalon methods work and keep this stupid thing hashing then I guess I'm OK with that. My last ditch effort would probably be to connect these Avalons to a PC running the latest cgminer and call it a day. Thats of course taking into assumption that the miner boards and FPGA controller boards are not my problem. I think its the suck ass TP-Link boards myself because one of the 4 Avalons that I bought wouldn't connect and mine out of the gate.
If you have 1 of 4 Avalons working incorrectly, you could try exchanging the tp-link board. But I can imagine you want to hash and not fiddle with the correctly working one.

I compared your cgminer log with mine (Avalon batch2), the only difference I see is

 [USB Pipe] => 1 0/5/0 1384515510 (yours)
 [USB Pipe] => 0 (mine)

Have a look at the other 3 Avalons to see what you have there.
Second suggestion is to remove --quiet (I don't have that in my more options field) I do have a limitation of the frequency: --avalon-freq 325-375 and the machine is doing 350Mhz +/- 3Mhz.

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November 15, 2013, 02:33:55 PM
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See here: (configuration)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334602.0

You need to add this parameter:

*   */4 *  *   *     /etc/init.d/cgminer restart

in System -> Scheduled Task

to keep this miner running 24 hours/day.

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November 15, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
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If you have 1 of 4 Avalons working incorrectly, you could try exchanging the tp-link board. But I can imagine you want to hash and not fiddle with the correctly working one.

I compared your cgminer log with mine (Avalon batch2), the only difference I see is

 [USB Pipe] => 1 0/5/0 1384515510 (yours)
 [USB Pipe] => 0 (mine)

Have a look at the other 3 Avalons to see what you have there.
Second suggestion is to remove --quiet (I don't have that in my more options field) I do have a limitation of the frequency: --avalon-freq 325-375 and the machine is doing 350Mhz +/- 3Mhz.


Heres what I have.

4 Avalon 60GHs unit (2 modules each). One of them gave me grief out of the box so I disconnected its miners from the controller board and plugged them into another Avalon, so I basically have 2 2 module units and 1 4 module unit. The newly created 4 module and 1 of the 2 module units are the ones that give me all the hard times. The final 2 module Avalon has been working great since day one.

I'll remove --quiet from my config file and see if that helps. I'm also still going to try to interface one of these things with a PC running the latest version of cgminer just to see if I can get some sort of stability out of them. So far my PC miners are all working fine. Its these stand alone Avalons that are sucking the life out of me.

Thanks again for the help and suggestions all.
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November 15, 2013, 04:33:40 PM
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So it would seem that connecting the Avalon to a WinPC is not as easy as I had hoped. I really wanted to get this HASHED out  Grin before I go out of town on Sunday.

Hmm...

Zadig fails to install any driver (I figured I'd try the WinUSB driver first).

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November 15, 2013, 04:46:53 PM
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So it hasn't been an hour since my last post (and last power cycle of my 4 module avalon) and here I am with the 120ghs avalon mining away at 5ghs. WTF is wrong with these things?

I'd be better off with 400 Block Eruptors.

I'll tell you that I got really tired fucking around with my 105gh (32 module)unit crapping out no matter what firmware or script fix. Bought an electronic timer and it shuts the fucking thing down every 2 hours for 1 min. This has been the most reliable solution. Not perfect as I catch it down 1-2 per week in between the 2 hour interval but much better than being down for longer periods. Power-cycling  might be wearing out my Avalon but I need it to mine now not in 12 months from now so to hell with it.

Honestly even though BFL is a shit company my other 3 miner units have been rock solid compared to my avalon unit.
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November 15, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
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I'll tell you that I got really tired fucking around with my 105gh (32 module)unit crapping out no matter what firmware or script fix. Bought an electronic timer and it shuts the fucking thing down every 2 hours for 1 min. This has been the most reliable solution. Not perfect as I catch it down 1-2 per week in between the 2 hour interval but much better than being down for longer periods. Power-cycling  might be wearing out my Avalon but I need it to mine now not in 12 months from now so to hell with it.

Honestly even though BFL is a shit company my other 3 miner units have been rock solid compared to my avalon unit.

I'm with ya on the timer idea. I've got some Z-Wave parts that I can remote into and kill outlets and what not at work from anywhere I have cell service. I'll probably go with that if the built in timers dont work.
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November 15, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
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I have tried every script I could find from this forum and for me at least none keep my unit hashing reliably.
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November 15, 2013, 06:16:40 PM
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I wish you all luck, my 4 module miner I purchased in october is probably going to pay itself off by beginning of January worst case feb-mar, and should mine a good chunk of dust for a while afterwards. As soon as I got my unit, I put in a 1200w power supply that I already owned, updated the firmware, set --avalon-auto and it has not stopped since. No errors, no problems.

I have my unit "open" with a fan blowing in from the side. Keeps the unit around 40-44 deg. Getting between 110-116gh/s stable, relentless. Very dust free, cool environment.

Maybe their current systems are more stable? Better equipment?

I was even running at 375mhz but noticed I was getting better rates set to auto. Too many hardware errors at 375mhz. It hovers between 345-355 in auto mode.

I've looked around inside, nothing smells, no burns, no weird glue problems. The case seems bloody bullet proof.


Again, good luck.
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I wish you all luck, my 4 module miner I purchased in october is probably going to pay itself off by beginning of January worst case feb-mar, and should mine a good chunk of dust for a while afterwards. As soon as I got my unit, I put in a 1200w power supply that I already owned, updated the firmware, set --avalon-auto and it has not stopped since. No errors, no problems.

I have my unit "open" with a fan blowing in from the side. Keeps the unit around 40-44 deg. Getting between 110-116gh/s stable, relentless. Very dust free, cool environment.

Maybe their current systems are more stable? Better equipment?

I was even running at 375mhz but noticed I was getting better rates set to auto. Too many hardware errors at 375mhz. It hovers between 345-355 in auto mode.

I've looked around inside, nothing smells, no burns, no weird glue problems. The case seems bloody bullet proof.


Again, good luck.

I'm sure some of us got lucky and ended up with Avalon's that are worth a shit but I'm not real pleased with the 4 I got. 3 out of the 4 of them have issues, one so serious that I cant use it now. Pretty piss poor quality but at least they shipped when they said they would.

So far the restarting cgminer and rebooting the avalons seem to be helping quite a bit. I rolled into 2 coins yesterday and am almost at .7 on my next coin in about 24 hours. Not bad all things considered.
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November 16, 2013, 07:57:03 AM
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Update: my avalon is working again. I just needed to physically turn it off, and then on again and it started hashing... Weird that system reboot did not fix this.

WHAT ABOUT FUTURE

Anyhow, to comment on my avalon ROI... I bought B3 avalon 4module in march, got it in only start of august, and untill now it mined around 53btc... but i paid 100btc for it. So overall i'd say I dont expect anyone from B3 to get a positive ROI.

I am really sorry I missed that email from avalon team when they offered return of payment. Sad I was in middle of my holidays and without email Sad

I would like to hear from Avalon guys with some special deal for B3 owners - upgrade modules to 28nm boards for avalon for example at a special price... Anything like that on horizont? I think they intentionally skipped making own devices from 55nm chips, as it looks like they are concentrating on 28nm chips... Cant wait to hear news on that.

And, apart from what is maybe even majority view here at forum, i still think avalon guys are doing their best and are not intentionally pissing off their customers, but sometimes things do no go according to plan...

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November 17, 2013, 09:08:08 AM
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So it hasn't been an hour since my last post (and last power cycle of my 4 module avalon) and here I am with the 120ghs avalon mining away at 5ghs. WTF is wrong with these things?

I'd be better off with 400 Block Eruptors.

are they cool enough? they shut off if overheated.. try setting 340 as frequency instead of 375..
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November 17, 2013, 02:11:51 PM
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Hey, I have an Avalon Mini 60gh and I was wondering if it would be worthwhile and safe to remove the top panel off the unit in an attempt to make it run cooler. Would this work and would it be safe to do without my miner being damaged?

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So it hasn't been an hour since my last post (and last power cycle of my 4 module avalon) and here I am with the 120ghs avalon mining away at 5ghs. WTF is wrong with these things?

I'd be better off with 400 Block Eruptors.

are they cool enough? they shut off if overheated.. try setting 340 as frequency instead of 375..

Yeah, they don't reach 50c and if they do they do not sit there very long. FWIW, I ran the three that are giving me crap at the lowest clock setting (275?) and they still took a dump. These things are just simply garbage but what the hell are ya going to do??
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Hey, I have an Avalon Mini 60gh and I was wondering if it would be worthwhile and safe to remove the top panel off the unit in an attempt to make it run cooler. Would this work and would it be safe to do without my miner being damaged?

I've got two 60ghs units that I run with the tops off. I had to combine the two of them into one 120ghs unit because the controller on one of them took a major crap and wouldn't connect to mine no matter what I did. Temps really didnt change much if thats what your looking for.
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November 17, 2013, 11:58:07 PM
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I wanted to get out one last good new avalon firmware before these devices become irrelevant due to rising difficulty:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/avalon/20131118/

I finally tracked down the regression that was preventing the avalon from being reliable with the newer versions of cgminer and have built new firmware based on the latest cgminer 3.8.2 git checkout 390ac7062663c688b656cf0dc893163cd7a852b3

EDIT: I should say you will probably need to disable the keep settings box meaning you will have to set it up again from its defaults (i.e. with an ethernet cable to 192.168.0.100)

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November 18, 2013, 12:38:37 AM
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I wanted to get out one last good new avalon firmware before these devices become irrelevant due to rising difficulty:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/avalon/20131118/

I finally tracked down the regression that was preventing the avalon from being reliable with the newer versions of cgminer and have built new firmware based on the latest cgminer 3.8.2 git checkout 390ac7062663c688b656cf0dc893163cd7a852b3


Nice! Thanks for that! Gota get what we can while we can.
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November 18, 2013, 02:27:03 AM
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is it going to make much difference to older rigs that have been doing well on the last one?
You know what they say about if it ain't broke...

The hashrate is only marginally higher, the device should almost never reset itself now and it should be much better with failing over and coping with round robin DNS or big coinbase pools (like Eligius). But if everything's working for you, don't touch it.

If you update you may need to reset your settings and start from scratch too, so it's not trivial.

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