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Just a thought, have you tried running 30 in one instance of cgminer and the other 30 in a second instance?
60 USB Miners work 61 does not. It doesn't matter how you split them up in multiple instances. If I plug in 61 devices and start CGMiner it says no USB Devices found. If I remove one then it takes off and starts mining. So I seem to max out with 59 BE's in one instance and 1 Jalapeno in another. Thanks, Sam os2sam: What operating system ?. There was a fella on irc talking to conman who is able to run 243 AMUs on one instance of cgminer.
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November 08, 2013, 08:57:29 PM |
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Scrypt and opencl support is being deprecated in the near future, and development for other coins is not going to happen, so sorry but there is no plan for improving support for other coins.
Might as well rename it assminer then. Seriously, though, mining BTC is dead for most except those lucky enough to have lots of BTC already or lots of disposable income to waste on over-priced embedded junk. Oh well, guess that's my problem. I don't see why you drop scrypt, but that's your choice. No point in donating now, I suppose.
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November 08, 2013, 10:20:53 PM |
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Scrypt and opencl support is being deprecated in the near future, and development for other coins is not going to happen, so sorry but there is no plan for improving support for other coins.
Might as well rename it assminer then. Seriously, though, mining BTC is dead for most except those lucky enough to have lots of BTC already or lots of disposable income to waste on over-priced embedded junk. Oh well, guess that's my problem. I don't see why you drop scrypt, but that's your choice. No point in donating now, I suppose. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one." He is not getting any substantial donations to maintain the scrypt code and GPU mining is pretty much dead. It is the correct decision IMO.
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November 08, 2013, 11:15:48 PM |
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"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."
He is not getting any substantial donations to maintain the scrypt code and GPU mining is pretty much dead.
It is the correct decision IMO.
Are you seriously suggesting that nobody is mining altcoins? Just because GPU mining BTC isn't profitable doesn't mean shit. Hell, even with the drop in price, Litecoin mining can still net you a couple hundred a month with just two GPUs. Also, don't many ASIC miner rigs come with their own built-in mining software? Anyway, I highly doubt that maintaining and even tweaking scrypt support that is only a thousand lines of code is so arduous as to require substantial donations, but that is his choice. Someone will pick up the slack.
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November 08, 2013, 11:35:05 PM |
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Someone will pick up the slack.
That would be fine by me. I write software either because I enjoy doing it, or I earn money for it, or both. I'm writing/maintaining cgminer because I believe in bitcoin and I like to earn bitcoin. I unashamedly wrote the scrypt support for a generous bitcoin fee a long time ago so it was purely for the payment. I have no interest in altcoins so someone else should be maintaining it. Just because others have an interest in altcoins doesn't mean that I have to.
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November 09, 2013, 12:50:44 AM |
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Just a thought, have you tried running 30 in one instance of cgminer and the other 30 in a second instance?
60 USB Miners work 61 does not. It doesn't matter how you split them up in multiple instances. If I plug in 61 devices and start CGMiner it says no USB Devices found. If I remove one then it takes off and starts mining. So I seem to max out with 59 BE's in one instance and 1 Jalapeno in another. Thanks, Sam os2sam: What operating system ?. There was a fella on irc talking to conman who is able to run 243 AMUs on one instance of cgminer. Win7 64 bit.
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November 09, 2013, 12:55:28 AM |
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Seriously, though, mining BTC is dead
The price of Bitcoin reflects that too, right?
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November 09, 2013, 12:58:27 AM |
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"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."
He is not getting any substantial donations to maintain the scrypt code and GPU mining is pretty much dead.
It is the correct decision IMO.
Are you seriously suggesting that nobody is mining altcoins? Just because GPU mining BTC isn't profitable doesn't mean shit. Hell, even with the drop in price, Litecoin mining can still net you a couple hundred a month with just two GPUs. Also, don't many ASIC miner rigs come with their own built-in mining software? Anyway, I highly doubt that maintaining and even tweaking scrypt support that is only a thousand lines of code is so arduous as to require substantial donations, but that is his choice. Someone will pick up the slack. I did not say or suggest that "nobody is mining altcoins". GPU mining for Bitcoins is dead. If you still want to mine altcoions then do so by using an older version that works. As for your question about ASIC hardware coming with their own built-in software the answer is no. Most do not have built-in mining software, which you could have found out with a little reading here on the forum. If you want changes to the code, use an older version and modify it yourself or maybe someone will pick it up and maintain a fork. I'm guessing you have profited much more than you have donated. If that is the case, then you really don't have a leg to stand on here and your getting way more than you paid for. Please continue on with your temper tantrum. It is most entertaining to read.
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November 09, 2013, 08:46:41 AM |
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"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."
He is not getting any substantial donations to maintain the scrypt code and GPU mining is pretty much dead.
It is the correct decision IMO.
Are you seriously suggesting that nobody is mining altcoins? Just because GPU mining BTC isn't profitable doesn't mean shit. Hell, even with the drop in price, Litecoin mining can still net you a couple hundred a month with just two GPUs. Also, don't many ASIC miner rigs come with their own built-in mining software? Anyway, I highly doubt that maintaining and even tweaking scrypt support that is only a thousand lines of code is so arduous as to require substantial donations, but that is his choice. Someone will pick up the slack. cbuchner1 has his own CUDAminer for nVidia cards at the moment, so it wouldn't be too much of stretch for someone else to do a dedicated miner for AMD cards that is more optimised for them rather than a catch-all program like cgminer. I also imagine once the Scrypt FPGA miners start being released soon, more attention might given to developing dedicated scrypt miners for them as well. Personally, I'm waiting on the development of a USB stick scrypt miner that I saw in another thread somewhere, so I don't have to run my PC 24/7 and could possibly delegate to my Raspberry Pi.
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November 09, 2013, 11:58:35 AM |
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Hello
I do think that this piece of code can create dead locks we are waiting to be awaken pthread_cond_wait holding lock mutex_lock(stgd_lock);
mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged();
if (!pool_localgen(cp) && !ts && !opt_fail_only) lagging = true;
/* Wait until hash_pop tells us we need to create more work */ if (ts > max_staged) { pthread_cond_wait(&gws_cond, stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); } mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
From the other side wake_gws needs same lock and so on and so on....Con please take a look at it when you can
static void wake_gws(void) { mutex_lock(stgd_lock); pthread_cond_signal(&gws_cond); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock); }
A quick fix might be
mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
if (!pool_localgen(cp) && !ts && !opt_fail_only) lagging = true;
/* Wait until hash_pop tells us we need to create more work */ if (ts > max_staged) { pthread_cond_wait(&gws_cond, stgd_lock); mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
}
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November 09, 2013, 12:03:22 PM |
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Hello
I do think that this piece of code can create dead locks we are waiting to be awaken pthread_cond_wait holding lock mutex_lock(stgd_lock);
mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged();
if (!pool_localgen(cp) && !ts && !opt_fail_only) lagging = true;
/* Wait until hash_pop tells us we need to create more work */ if (ts > max_staged) { pthread_cond_wait(&gws_cond, stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); } mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
From the other side wake_gws needs same lock and so on and so on....Con please take a look at it when you can
static void wake_gws(void) { mutex_lock(stgd_lock); pthread_cond_signal(&gws_cond); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock); }
A quick fix might be
mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
if (!pool_localgen(cp) && !ts && !opt_fail_only) lagging = true;
/* Wait until hash_pop tells us we need to create more work */ if (ts > max_staged) { pthread_cond_wait(&gws_cond, stgd_lock); mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
}
I appreciate you looking over the code, however I guess you don't understand that pthread_cond_wait DROPS the mutex lock associated with it. You are supposed to called a pthread conditional wait holding a mutex lock and it picks up the lock again when the conditional or timeout is over.
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November 09, 2013, 12:08:00 PM |
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Yues i guess i do not understand the details but with latest git i am experiencing deadlocks applog(LOG_WARNING, "Waiting for work to be available from pools."); and everything is freezing If i find out the reason i will let you know but something is not right PS- Why did you disable Avalon lock lately - commit c3f13369961a7be6b19fe838ac4b5a7bc8592b16? If everything is ok the lock shall be ok also. Anyway Thank you Hello
I do think that this piece of code can create dead locks we are waiting to be awaken pthread_cond_wait holding lock mutex_lock(stgd_lock);
mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged();
if (!pool_localgen(cp) && !ts && !opt_fail_only) lagging = true;
/* Wait until hash_pop tells us we need to create more work */ if (ts > max_staged) { pthread_cond_wait(&gws_cond, stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); } mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
From the other side wake_gws needs same lock and so on and so on....Con please take a look at it when you can
static void wake_gws(void) { mutex_lock(stgd_lock); pthread_cond_signal(&gws_cond); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock); }
A quick fix might be
mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
if (!pool_localgen(cp) && !ts && !opt_fail_only) lagging = true;
/* Wait until hash_pop tells us we need to create more work */ if (ts > max_staged) { pthread_cond_wait(&gws_cond, stgd_lock); mutex_lock(stgd_lock); ts = __total_staged(); mutex_unlock(stgd_lock);
}
I appreciate you looking over the code, however I guess you don't understand that pthread_cond_wait DROPS the mutex lock associated with it. You are supposed to called a pthread conditional wait holding a mutex lock and it picks up the lock again when the conditional or timeout is over.
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November 09, 2013, 12:11:22 PM |
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PS- Why did you disable Avalon lock lately? If everything is ok the lock shall be ok also.
Everything was not okay with the avalon. There are recursive locks called in a different order from the async flush code and the avalon code. Recursive locks in a different order cause deadlocks. If you are having deadlocks then perhaps you have a hardware driver with a similar problem. The one I have not been able to fully audit so far is the klondike driver which may be prone to the same problem.
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November 09, 2013, 12:13:20 PM |
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PS- Why did you disable Avalon lock lately? If everything is ok the lock shall be ok also.
Everything was not okay with the avalon. There are recursive locks called in a different order from the async flush code and the avalon code. Recursive locks in a different order cause deadlocks. If you are having deadlocks then perhaps you have a hardware driver with a similar problem. The one I have not been able to fully audit so far is the klondike driver which may be prone to the same problem. Thank you con!!!! You do not mind to spam the thread now and then do you? I am finding bugs from time to times I am joking..Thank you very much Best
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November 09, 2013, 12:18:12 PM |
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PS- Why did you disable Avalon lock lately? If everything is ok the lock shall be ok also.
Everything was not okay with the avalon. There are recursive locks called in a different order from the async flush code and the avalon code. Recursive locks in a different order cause deadlocks. If you are having deadlocks then perhaps you have a hardware driver with a similar problem. The one I have not been able to fully audit so far is the klondike driver which may be prone to the same problem. Thank you con!!!! You do not mind to spam the thread now and then do you? I am finding bugs from time to times I am joking..Thank you very much Absolutely do not mind at all. People auditing code is rare, and reporting meaningful bugs is the key to fixing them. What hardware do you have anyway, if you are having deadlock problems? By the way, if you can reliably reproduce what appears to be a deadlock, make sure you have the absolute latest git, edit miner.h to enable LOCK_TRACKING change line 765 to and start cgminer logging the output and with the API enabled with for example the following extra options: --api-listen --api-allow "W:127.0.0.1" 2>log.txt
and when you see a deadlock send the command to get a summary of the lock status with This should spew extra information into the logging file you generated called log.txt which will allow me to see how the deadlock was caused.
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November 09, 2013, 12:23:11 PM |
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PS- Why did you disable Avalon lock lately? If everything is ok the lock shall be ok also.
Everything was not okay with the avalon. There are recursive locks called in a different order from the async flush code and the avalon code. Recursive locks in a different order cause deadlocks. If you are having deadlocks then perhaps you have a hardware driver with a similar problem. The one I have not been able to fully audit so far is the klondike driver which may be prone to the same problem. Thank you con!!!! You do not mind to spam the thread now and then do you? I am finding bugs from time to times I am joking..Thank you very much Absolutely do not mind at all. People auditing code is rare, and reporting meaningful bugs is the key to fixing them. What hardware do you have anyway, if you are having deadlock problems? By the way, if you can reliably reproduce what appears to be a deadlock, make sure you have the absolute latest git, edit miner.h to enable LOCK_TRACKING change line 765 to and start cgminer logging the output and with the API enabled with for example the following extra options: --api-listen --api-allow "W:127.0.0.1" 2>log.txt
and when you see a deadlock send the command to get a summary of the lock status with This should spew extra information into the logging file you generated called log.txt which will allow me to see how the deadlock was caused. Thank You! I will do as suggested. I do have HEX16A. And i am playing with them for the moment I will let you know if i find out what happens related to your code as long hex16 is not pushed to your git ... Best
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November 09, 2013, 12:24:25 PM |
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I will do as suggested. I do have HEX16A. And i am playing with them for the moment
I will let you know if i find out what happens related to your code as long hex16 is not pushed to your git ...
Ah in that case, make sure your report your bug to the hex16 maintainer, not me since it's not cgminer code.
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November 09, 2013, 02:48:12 PM |
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I will do as suggested. I do have HEX16A. And i am playing with them for the moment
I will let you know if i find out what happens related to your code as long hex16 is not pushed to your git ...
Ah in that case, make sure your report your bug to the hex16 maintainer, not me since it's not cgminer code. Con, I will try to filter out bugs and report the ones which are related to your code only
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November 09, 2013, 03:05:42 PM |
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I have two block erupters that are producing about a Ths for me. That would be great if weren't a Ths of Hardware errors. I have seen others report very high hash rates for BE's but I don't remember what the consensus was. Is this a BE, Hub or CGMiner issue? Any insight would be appreciated. Sam
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November 09, 2013, 03:09:15 PM |
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I have a USB driver question (not a complaint). Have you changed any USB driver components between 3.6.4 and 3.7.2? Because all of a sudden, I cannot for the life of me get CGminer 3.7.2 to work with my USB block erupters at all, while going thru Anker USB hubs (I have two hubs, none of them wants to work with CGminer 3.7.2). If I reboot, and start up CGminer 3.6.4, same machine, different CGminers in different directories, 3.6.4 works fine. I start up 3.7.2, no AMUs get recognized thru the hub. The only way they get recognized by CGminer 3.7.2 is if I plug them into the computer's usb ports directly. The Anker hubs are USB 3.0 hubs, so it seems like there is some kind of issue when going from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0., either with CGminer or the Anker hubs. This is a pure Linux Mint 14 machine, AMD processor, with the each version of CGminer compiled using --enable-icarus --enable-klondike --no-gpu --disable-opencl I don't remember what the flags were for each compile (I think I have them written down somewhere), but the earlier version had a different set...I'm guessing that's important? (I think I loaded libtool, libncurses-dev yasm curl , for the 3.6.4 compilation, but not for the 3.7.2 compilation). The 3.7.2 compile I just did cd cgminer chmod +x ./autogen.sh ./autogen.sh ./configure --enable-icarus --enable-klondike --no-gpu --disable-opencl make Version 3.6.4 used to also recognized Klondikes going thru the Anker hub, but it does not anymore under 3.7.2. Both icarus and klondikes work fine when plugged directly into the usb ports under 3.6.4. Weird, isn't it? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for all your work on this.
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