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Author Topic: OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.1  (Read 5766387 times)
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August 25, 2013, 07:13:01 AM
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For the brave (and very few) BFL SC single owners out there that wish to flash your devices to try and get the last bit of hashrate out of them, I have uploaded 3 different compiled firmwares here:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/BitForce_SC/BitForce_SC_1.2.6ck.zip

They all try to enable extra engines than the default firmware does, but in addition I have made 3 different speed ones available, they're tagged 7,8 and 9.

I suggest you start with the 7 first, and if your HW error% rate is less than 2%, try the next one up. I have two singles and one worked best with the 7 version while the other with the 9, so each device will be different.

Remember to put the pins right when connecting your AVR dragon to flash it, and note the different device that Amtel Studio tells you the single is (compared to the Jalapeno) and change your settings accordingly.

If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, then just ignore this message, since it assumes lots of prior knowledge about flashing the Jalapeno.

any chance that it could work on Little single?
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August 25, 2013, 10:42:41 AM
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Trying to run cgminer to mine Litecoin with Kattare pool on an NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti and getting the following error with these BAT file settings:
For Litecoin try cudaMiner:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.0
It's way faster on Nvidia cards.
Oh, no - please don't mention a different miner in this thread!  Kano will post a 10 paragraph reply accusing you of being a shill who is just advertising for that crapminer you mentioned.  Roll Eyes
A miner that adds features that CGMiner does not have is not a bad thing. A miner that copies CGMiner and then claims that CGMiner is inferior in every imaginable way is something that Kano does not seem to take lightly. See the difference? Wink

I don't care about the difference.  When a user posts a bug report and happens to mention that the problem does not occur with some other mining software, that user does not deserve to be attacked, and the report ignored just because Kano has personal issues with another developer.

No.

As I stated in the reply before, the logic you presented was complete fail.

Something didn't work for you with program A whatever you did wrong.

So you ran program Bleargh on another operating system with a different configuration.

Even a inept fool should be able to see the logic fail there.

Kano, you need to chill out dude. You're a tremendous douche-bag at times. No need for that unless you are applying for a job at Butterfly Labs.

Maybe I missed where the OP of the complaint stated that he tried compiling on windows, or compiled CGminer on Linux. Re-reading it a few times I noted the OP had only stated trying the binary release on windows. Not compiling, not an older version, not switching to Linux.

What the OP did was shortly after posting a problem that could be A) windows related, B) cgminer software related or C) hardware related the OP posted that switching the OS to Linux, the software to another software that the problem disappeared. As far as I know the OP of the complaint switched hardware too as I am not seeing where the OP had gone to the trouble of reformatting to run Linux. So sure by changing everything but the block erupters I can assure you the problem was not directly the block erupters. But as far as a bug in cgminer I think maybe a little more stringent diagnostic procedure is required to have a guess at that.

To be honest I can assure you using less shortcuts on the same testing strategy months before I had issues with CGminer on windows. All timeout related. Even increasing the timeout (Kano did it to try to fix the problem) there was nothing fixing that version. I could have stratum on eclipse or far lower errors on cgminer rolling back to an older version. I did build on windows from kano's git. I did try other things. I finally ordered a Raspberry pi compiled the newest cgminer (at the time) and suddenly the errors went away. Same version I wanted to run on windows just on Linux. Now unfortunately the problem could be A) the computer I used to use, or B) the operating system. Since I could run the previous version without issues without the hardware errors the problem wasn't directly with my hardware. There was a compatibility issue with the timer in windows not being accurate enough. Since I could keep the CGminer version the same on both I could prove that cgminer itself wasn't the issue. If the timeouts had been caused by cgminers lower latency on that version it would apply to the much slower raspberry pi with even lower latency on linux.

Now given that level or more of testing I would say maybe the OP had a bug. Given the information posted either the OP didn't test anything or forgot to mention any tests the ran to try to track down the error. Maybe there is a bug. But is the bug with windows, cgminer or the OP's hardware? I can't answer that. No one can off of the information provided.

I am sure they are looking for the bug right now. Given a little more information maybe they will know where to look for the bug. To me it seems better to ask what would help them find the bug that was so bothersome. Maybe hold other variables still while changing only one at a time so as to narrow down the possibilities.

I have reported bugs here. I have been met with no real hostility by anyone. I just ask how to fix whatever error I was having. I let them know what versions the error hadn't shown up on until. By doing that at least the places to look for the bug is limited to the changes between the last known good version and  the current version

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August 25, 2013, 11:10:44 AM
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Kano, you need to chill out dude. You're a tremendous douche-bag at times. No need for that unless you are applying for a job at Butterfly Labs.
Fuck off Smiley

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August 25, 2013, 12:35:59 PM
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Trying to run cgminer to mine Litecoin with Kattare pool on an NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti and getting the following error with these BAT file settings:
For Litecoin try cudaMiner:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.0
It's way faster on Nvidia cards.
Oh, no - please don't mention a different miner in this thread!  Kano will post a 10 paragraph reply accusing you of being a shill who is just advertising for that crapminer you mentioned.  Roll Eyes
A miner that adds features that CGMiner does not have is not a bad thing. A miner that copies CGMiner and then claims that CGMiner is inferior in every imaginable way is something that Kano does not seem to take lightly. See the difference? Wink

I don't care about the difference.  When a user posts a bug report and happens to mention that the problem does not occur with some other mining software, that user does not deserve to be attacked, and the report ignored just because Kano has personal issues with another developer.

No.

As I stated in the reply before, the logic you presented was complete fail.

Something didn't work for you with program A whatever you did wrong.

So you ran program Bleargh on another operating system with a different configuration.

Even a inept fool should be able to see the logic fail there.

Kano, you need to chill out dude. You're a tremendous douche-bag at times. No need for that unless you are applying for a job at Butterfly Labs.

Maybe I missed where the OP of the complaint stated that he tried compiling on windows, or compiled CGminer on Linux. Re-reading it a few times I noted the OP had only stated trying the binary release on windows. Not compiling, not an older version, not switching to Linux.

What the OP did was shortly after posting a problem that could be A) windows related, B) cgminer software related or C) hardware related the OP posted that switching the OS to Linux, the software to another software that the problem disappeared. As far as I know the OP of the complaint switched hardware too as I am not seeing where the OP had gone to the trouble of reformatting to run Linux. So sure by changing everything but the block erupters I can assure you the problem was not directly the block erupters. But as far as a bug in cgminer I think maybe a little more stringent diagnostic procedure is required to have a guess at that.

To be honest I can assure you using less shortcuts on the same testing strategy months before I had issues with CGminer on windows. All timeout related. Even increasing the timeout (Kano did it to try to fix the problem) there was nothing fixing that version. I could have stratum on eclipse or far lower errors on cgminer rolling back to an older version. I did build on windows from kano's git. I did try other things. I finally ordered a Raspberry pi compiled the newest cgminer (at the time) and suddenly the errors went away. Same version I wanted to run on windows just on Linux. Now unfortunately the problem could be A) the computer I used to use, or B) the operating system. Since I could run the previous version without issues without the hardware errors the problem wasn't directly with my hardware. There was a compatibility issue with the timer in windows not being accurate enough. Since I could keep the CGminer version the same on both I could prove that cgminer itself wasn't the issue. If the timeouts had been caused by cgminers lower latency on that version it would apply to the much slower raspberry pi with even lower latency on linux.

Now given that level or more of testing I would say maybe the OP had a bug. Given the information posted either the OP didn't test anything or forgot to mention any tests the ran to try to track down the error. Maybe there is a bug. But is the bug with windows, cgminer or the OP's hardware? I can't answer that. No one can off of the information provided.

I am sure they are looking for the bug right now. Given a little more information maybe they will know where to look for the bug. To me it seems better to ask what would help them find the bug that was so bothersome. Maybe hold other variables still while changing only one at a time so as to narrow down the possibilities.

I have reported bugs here. I have been met with no real hostility by anyone. I just ask how to fix whatever error I was having. I let them know what versions the error hadn't shown up on until. By doing that at least the places to look for the bug is limited to the changes between the last known good version and  the current version

All this might be applicable, if my goal was to troubleshoot CGMiner.  It was not.  My goal was to get my mining hardware mining reliably.  I tried one configuration, which happened to be a very generic install of the release distribution of CGMiner, and I had problems with that configuration.  I then tried a different configuration that worked 100%.  I'm done, my problem is solved.

I posted the problem that I had experienced here to alert the developers that there might be an issue, because I thought that was the right thing to do.  I would think that the information that a generic install of CGMiner appeared to have problems with Block Erupters might be worth knowing to the developers, and the fact that the same Block Erupters worked perfectly in another configuration was just included to demonstrate that there was no hardware problem involved.

Now, you can fairly say that that is not a very detailed bug report, and therefore of limited value to the developer.  I did not invest any time at all in trying to fix CGMiner, because my goal was just to get my hardware reliably making money ASAP, and I accomplished that.

That being said, I could understand if my post was answered with "Well, that's not really enough information for me to determine the problem you were having, and I cannot reproduce this failure, so I can't act on this report."

Instead, I was attacked as a SHILL, who was somehow ADVERTISING for a 'competitor'!  Does that not seems just a little over the top to you?

Maybe it wasn't the best bug report ever written, but I did not deserve the response I got.

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August 25, 2013, 01:26:52 PM
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So by your own admission, the first part of your post was pretty much useless

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Now, you can fairly say that that is not a very detailed bug report, and therefore of limited value to the developer.  I did not invest any time at all in trying to fix CGMiner, because my goal was just to get my hardware reliably making money ASAP, and I accomplished that.
...
But in case it wasn't obvious, it was not of limited value, it was of no value at all.
It works for others who do it correctly and read the READMEs, so your complete lack of any information at all says indeed the first half of your post was completely useless.

And the 2nd part of your post is saying to use another miner.

OK, it's worse than fail logic, it's a completely pointless post that only tells people to use another miner.

... and to top it off you're filling this thread up with big useless crap posts also ...

As I said at the start of this: Go away.

I will also point out something that you probably completely missed also ... that your USBs you have bought will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

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August 25, 2013, 01:28:29 PM
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August 25, 2013, 01:35:04 PM
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I will also point out something that you probably completely missed also ... that your USBs you have bought will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

Are you in the future telling business now?  You know for certain the value of BTC will never go above the current $120/USD? 

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I will also point out something that you probably completely missed also ... that your USBs you have bought will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

Are you in the future telling business now?  You know for certain the value of BTC will never go above the current $120/USD? 

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... will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

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* ckolivas groans

Hey man, he's your partner... (Passive-aggressive smiley face)

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So by your own admission, the first part of your post was pretty much useless

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Now, you can fairly say that that is not a very detailed bug report, and therefore of limited value to the developer.  I did not invest any time at all in trying to fix CGMiner, because my goal was just to get my hardware reliably making money ASAP, and I accomplished that.
...
But in case it wasn't obvious, it was not of limited value, it was of no value at all.
It works for others who do it correctly and read the READMEs, so your complete lack of any information at all says indeed the first half of your post was completely useless.

And the 2nd part of your post is saying to use another miner.

OK, it's worse than fail logic, it's a completely pointless post that only tells people to use another miner.

... and to top it off you're filling this thread up with big useless crap posts also ...

As I said at the start of this: Go away.

I will also point out something that you probably completely missed also ... that your USBs you have bought will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

It was of NO value because instead of asking for more detail, you just attacked me irrationally, claiming I was advertising for your 'competition'.

I never instructed anyone to use any other miner.  I just stated what happened in my case.  I used configuration A, and it failed.  Then I used configuration B, and it worked 100 %.  End of story.


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So by your own admission, the first part of your post was pretty much useless

...
Now, you can fairly say that that is not a very detailed bug report, and therefore of limited value to the developer.  I did not invest any time at all in trying to fix CGMiner, because my goal was just to get my hardware reliably making money ASAP, and I accomplished that.
...
But in case it wasn't obvious, it was not of limited value, it was of no value at all.
It works for others who do it correctly and read the READMEs, so your complete lack of any information at all says indeed the first half of your post was completely useless.

And the 2nd part of your post is saying to use another miner.

OK, it's worse than fail logic, it's a completely pointless post that only tells people to use another miner.

... and to top it off you're filling this thread up with big useless crap posts also ...

As I said at the start of this: Go away.
I will also point out something that you probably completely missed also ... that your USBs you have bought will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.
It was of NO value because instead of asking for more detail, you just attacked me irrationally, claiming I was advertising for your 'competition'.
I never instructed anyone to use any other miner.  I just stated what happened in my case.  I used configuration A, and it failed.  Then I used configuration B, and it worked 100 %.  End of story.

 As much as I loathe Luke-Jr, I'm tempted to try Bllllaaaarrrggghhhhminer on Windows to see if resolves a consistent crash issues after a couple days I'm having with CGMiner driving AMUs.

 Thanks Kano. Much like with Butterfly Labs, your terrible attitude has driven me to your competition.
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 Thanks Kano. Much like with Butterfly Labs, your terrible attitude has driven me to your competition.

One less dick in this thread Smiley

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Yeah, well one mining program uses stupid USB drivers which need so many hoops to be jumped through to get working, if they do at all, for no apparent benefit. The author(s) refuse(s) to accept that changing to the new more difficult and stupid USB drivers was a mistake, and won't go back to the original "just works" way of doing things.  That miner also has issues compiling it's OGL kernel, crashing out instantly, unless the correct number of chickens are slaughtered while the moon is in the third quadrant and sacrificed to the SDK gods.  The issue is also ignored by the authors, and has been for months upon months.

The other needs one set of USB or GPU drivers installed and everything just works.


I won't say which one is which, but I think anyone reading this has a fair idea..




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August 25, 2013, 02:06:57 PM
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 Thanks Kano. Much like with Butterfly Labs, your terrible attitude has driven me to your competition.

One less dick in this thread Smiley

Nah, the dick is still firmly embedded in the thread.  Right up to the balls.



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August 25, 2013, 02:10:54 PM
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Yeah, well one mining program uses stupid USB drivers which need so many hoops to be jumped through to get working, if they do at all, for no apparent benefit. The author(s) refuse(s) to accept that changing to the new more difficult and stupid USB drivers was a mistake, and won't go back to the original "just works" way of doing things.  That miner also has issues compiling it's OGL kernel, crashing out instantly, unless the correct number of chickens are slaughtered while the moon is in the third quadrant and sacrificed to the SDK gods.  The issue is also ignored by the authors, and has been for months upon months.

The other needs one set of USB or GPU drivers installed and everything just works.


I won't say which one is which, but I think anyone reading this has a fair idea..


Pure unadulterated troll. Anyone else want to get in on the act before mods have to come in to clean up this trainwreck you've all created over the last few pages?

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August 25, 2013, 02:12:43 PM
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 Thanks Kano. Much like with Butterfly Labs, your terrible attitude has driven me to your competition.
One less dick in this thread Smiley

 Thanks bro. Welcome to my ignore list, additionally.
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August 25, 2013, 02:15:02 PM
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I will also point out something that you probably completely missed also ... that your USBs you have bought will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

Are you in the future telling business now?  You know for certain the value of BTC will never go above the current $120/USD? 

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... will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

And you know that how?  You know for certain some catastrophic event won't occur that'll drive the value of BTC to ridiculously low prices, causes people to abandon in droves causing difficulty to drop?  You also know they won't still be mining 10 years from now?  No moving parts, simple construction, if properly cooled they should last a while.  (That remains to be seen of course.)

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August 25, 2013, 02:21:13 PM
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 Thanks Kano. Much like with Butterfly Labs, your terrible attitude has driven me to your competition.
One less dick in this thread Smiley

 Thanks bro. Welcome to my ignore list, additionally.
Woot - I haven't been on anyone's ignore list for about a year?
I think I even got a faint shade of yellow at one stage back then Smiley

I can definitely say without a doubt, I'd not miss anything by putting you on my ignore list ... not so sure about the opposite though Tongue
I don't bother ignoring though, coz people just quote everything anyway (look at this thread in the last few pages ... lotsa quotes ...)

Anyway ... back to whatever it was I was doing ...

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August 25, 2013, 02:27:03 PM
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I cant put this program work on my Win 8 64bits... its strange!

it shutdown after I put the data of pool, user and pass...
Make sure that the information that you are entering is correct, If there are any errors, the CGMiner cmd window will just close really fast.

add "pause" as a line after the cgminer command line and the cmd window will wait for a key entry to close.

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August 25, 2013, 02:33:18 PM
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I will also point out something that you probably completely missed also ... that your USBs you have bought will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

Are you in the future telling business now?  You know for certain the value of BTC will never go above the current $120/USD? 

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... will never mine the amount of BTC you paid for them.

And you know that how?  You know for certain some catastrophic event won't occur that'll drive the value of BTC to ridiculously low prices, causes people to abandon in droves causing difficulty to drop?  You also know they won't still be mining 10 years from now?  No moving parts, simple construction, if properly cooled they should last a while.  (That remains to be seen of course.)

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I'd bet you 10BTC neither of those things will happen in the next 12 months ... except I can't afford to make the bet and tie up 10BTC for 12 months Sad

They do heat up all the time - and totally lack any thermal monitoring - cheap and nasty and originally something like 10,000% mark up Smiley
No one who paid 2BTC for them has made 2BTC PPS yet either ...
I paid 1.1 BTC for 2 of them to help with debugging libusb ... I certainly know I'll never get 1.1 BTC back PPS mining with them, so I have them on solo where they will most likely never get anything ... or if I'm really lucky, might find a block and pay them off Cheesy

With the 3 I have at the current difficulty, the average expected time to find a block is 3,268days 12hr 4min 27sec
Of course that number is worse than meaningless since the difficulty in even 2 months will most likely be at least double what it is now.
Since I got my BAS less than 4 weeks ago ... difficulty has doubled already, they have already dropped to half what they were returning 4 weeks ago Tongue

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