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August 25, 2013, 02:47:31 PM
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Damn, so much trolling and shit talking over the last day. All I'll say is I appropriate ALL THE WORK THAT ALL BITCOIN DEVS DO. Some people are better at some things and but ALL OF YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
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August 25, 2013, 03:00:48 PM
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Yeah, well one mining program uses stupid USB drivers which need so many hoops to be jumped through to get working, if they do at all, for no apparent benefit. The author(s) refuse(s) to accept that changing to the new more difficult and stupid USB drivers was a mistake, and won't go back to the original "just works" way of doing things.  That miner also has issues compiling it's OGL kernel, crashing out instantly, unless the correct number of chickens are slaughtered while the moon is in the third quadrant and sacrificed to the SDK gods.  The issue is also ignored by the authors, and has been for months upon months.

The other needs one set of USB or GPU drivers installed and everything just works.


I won't say which one is which, but I think anyone reading this has a fair idea..


Pure unadulterated troll. Anyone else want to get in on the act before mods have to come in to clean up this trainwreck you've all created over the last few pages?

In all fairness, I think even you would have to agree that this trainwreck was created by Kano.

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August 25, 2013, 03:01:27 PM
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Damn, so much trolling and shit talking over the last day. All I'll say is I appropriate ALL THE WORK THAT ALL BITCOIN DEVS DO. Some people are better at some things and but ALL OF YOU DO A GREAT JOB.

When you have a notable antagonist like Kano involved with this project, it's hard to avoid shit talking Sad

Having said that, I greatly appreciate all the work done on CGMiner, and feel sorry for Con having to deal with such an immature child in the form of his partner.
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August 25, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
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Outside of the documentation, are there any concise examples of the overclocking commands in action, that I could study before my rigs get here?
Going through this entire thread is not possible!
(I am running MinePeon with CG Miner on a Raspberry Pi. I'll be overclocking a Burnin Mining rig and then a Bitfury chip custom rig).

Thanks,
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August 25, 2013, 03:20:01 PM
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Yeah, well one mining program uses stupid USB drivers which need so many hoops to be jumped through to get working, if they do at all, for no apparent benefit. The author(s) refuse(s) to accept that changing to the new more difficult and stupid USB drivers was a mistake, and won't go back to the original "just works" way of doing things.  That miner also has issues compiling it's OGL kernel, crashing out instantly, unless the correct number of chickens are slaughtered while the moon is in the third quadrant and sacrificed to the SDK gods.  The issue is also ignored by the authors, and has been for months upon months.

The other needs one set of USB or GPU drivers installed and everything just works.


I won't say which one is which, but I think anyone reading this has a fair idea..

Heh, well at least you pretended that you knew what you were talking about Smiley
1) A different serial-USB driver for EACH USB chip ... we only use one
2) Oops - you can't send a control transfer with serial-USB damn shame about that hey Smiley
(I'm sure that one will be well above your understanding)
3) Though I guess you didn't notice the drivers in your God's miner that do use direct USB ... damn! Smiley

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August 25, 2013, 03:26:02 PM
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Outside of the documentation, are there any concise examples of the overclocking commands in action, that I could study before my rigs get here?
Going through this entire thread is not possible!
(I am running MinePeon with CG Miner on a Raspberry Pi. I'll be overclocking a Burnin Mining rig and then a Bitfury chip custom rig).

Thanks,
IAS
No bitfury drivers yet.

Burnin's BitBurner is simply a case of adjusting the freq and the volts - the higher the volts the bigger the risk of hardware failure.
The higher the frequency, the larger the volts required to reduce HW errors.
Update of what I posted in the Burnin thread Smiley
 BTB 0: 56C 400 1346mV | 7.192G/7.991Gh/s | A:243645 R:2216 HW:12 WU:111.6/m
[Device Hardware%] => 0.0049 (yes that's a %)

It's documented in the README, ASIC-README and API-README ...

To set the start voltage:
 --bitburner-voltage nnnn
nnnn - from 1200 to 1400
Warning it can kill your power supply or even your board ... be careful adjusting it too high

To set the start frequency (for one board with 20 chips)
 --avalon-options 115200:2:10:d:nnn
nnn from 282 up to 450

When it's running you can change them also via the API, but it doesn't really help to work out the performance coz you need to run it for a few hours to get marginally reliable statistics - the Avalon driver doesn't count hashes, it estimates them.

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August 25, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
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In all fairness, I think even you would have to agree that this trainwreck was created by Kano.

No!  You need to take responsibility for your own actions.

You started this "trainwreck" with no intentions of finding out what the problem was you were having with the program.

This is a community where we all work together to identify and resolve problems.  You had no intention of doing that.  You just lobbed a hand grenade and got offended by a remark in response you YOUR offensive remark.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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When you have a notable antagonist like Kano involved with this project, it's hard to avoid shit talking Sad

It's actually very easy to avoid.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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August 25, 2013, 03:51:40 PM
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In all fairness, I think even you would have to agree that this trainwreck was created by Kano.

No!  You need to take responsibility for your own actions.

You started this "trainwreck" with no intentions of finding out what the problem was you were having with the program.

This is a community where we all work together to identify and resolve problems.  You had no intention of doing that.  You just lobbed a hand grenade and got offended by a remark in response you YOUR offensive remark.

Grow Up!

Wrong.  I am not a CGMiner developer.  I have no responsibility or interest in personally debugging CGMiner.  Especially now, since I no longer even use it.

That being said, I thought the developers might want to be aware of the issue, that's why I posted it.  I would have been perfectly happy to provide more details to help Kano debug the issue, if he had requested that - but he chose to just blindly attack me instead.

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August 25, 2013, 03:58:45 PM
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Yeah, well one mining program uses stupid USB drivers which need so many hoops to be jumped through to get working, if they do at all, for no apparent benefit.

I for one really like the "stupid USB drivers".

CGMiner 3.2.1 was the easiest install of new hardware I ever had.  I switched from GPU's to BE's and Jalapeno with NO ISSUES on Windbloze 7.

Then when 3.3.1 was released I was able to run multiple instances of CGMiner with equal numbers of BE's to multiple pools with ease and reliability.  You just cannot do that with serial USB drivers, when you reboot the system the ports can and probably will come up with a different port mapping and then I would need to redo my .bat files again to do what I want until the next round of Windoze updates.

Implementing new and improved ways of doing things always causes problem, but when they are resolved then you have a better application.

I guess we should all get ticked off at Al Gore for inventing the internet too, right?  Nobody should need more than a 1200bps modem and a BBS right?
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August 25, 2013, 03:59:35 PM
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Heh, well at least you pretended that you knew what you were talking about Smiley
1) A different serial-USB driver for EACH USB chip ... we only use one
2) Oops - you can't send a control transfer with serial-USB damn shame about that hey Smiley
(I'm sure that one will be well above your understanding)
3) Though I guess you didn't notice the drivers in your God's miner that do use direct USB ... damn! Smiley

What about the crashing on first run with GPU mining on Windows?  You've still not acknowledged this.  

On several machines, several installs (Win7x64 Pro/Enterprise or Win8x64), I can only get cgminer to work with the ancient 12.8 drivers - and even then it's only 75% success rate.  Yet 'the other miner' works with 13.4 and newer no problems.  It doesn't make sense.

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Windbloze 7.


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That was just for your enjoyment Smiley

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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Wrong.  I am not a CGMiner developer.  I have no responsibility or interest in personally debugging CGMiner.

Both developers and users are part of the Open Source Software community, users have responsibility to report problems and help ascertain what the cause is, when possible.

but he chose to just blindly attack me instead.

He didn't "blindly" attack you, You, gave first offense, now your refusing to take responsibility for it.  You want Kano to take responsibility for his offensive post, but why should he when YOU refuse?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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Outside of the documentation, are there any concise examples of the overclocking commands in action, that I could study before my rigs get here?
Going through this entire thread is not possible!
(I am running MinePeon with CG Miner on a Raspberry Pi. I'll be overclocking a Burnin Mining rig and then a Bitfury chip custom rig).

Thanks,
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No bitfury drivers yet.

Burnin's BitBurner is simply a case of adjusting the freq and the volts - the higher the volts the bigger the risk of hardware failure.
The higher the frequency, the larger the volts required to reduce HW errors.
Update of what I posted in the Burnin thread Smiley
 BTB 0: 56C 400 1346mV | 7.192G/7.991Gh/s | A:243645 R:2216 HW:12 WU:111.6/m
[Device Hardware%] => 0.0049 (yes that's a %)

It's documented in the README, ASIC-README and API-README ...

To set the start voltage:
 --bitburner-voltage nnnn
nnnn - from 1200 to 1400
Warning it can kill your power supply or even your board ... be careful adjusting it too high

To set the start frequency (for one board with 20 chips)
 --avalon-options 115200:2:10:d:nnn
nnn from 282 up to 450

When it's running you can change them also via the API, but it doesn't really help to work out the performance coz you need to run it for a few hours to get marginally reliable statistics - the Avalon driver doesn't count hashes, it estimates them.

Thanks a lot Kano. I know how some newb questions can be a pain.  Grin

I'll watch the voltage closely and wasn't aware of it being able to do so much harm. Had no idea it could hurt a PS.
Hopefully Burnin Mining and SebastianJu find some good settings to settle on and post them.
Barntech will help, I think, with the drivers. At least he is talking about overclocking the rigs he is producing with Bitfury's. Said he got it from 2Ghash/s to 2.7Ghash/s. That is a lot. Burnin Minding talked about getting them to 5Ghash/s and I asked him how as it made no sense, but he never replied. Hmmmmm....

Have you heard of anyone using the --avalon-auto option? I see quite a few other interesting options there.

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August 25, 2013, 04:31:02 PM
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Wrong.  I am not a CGMiner developer.  I have no responsibility or interest in personally debugging CGMiner.

Both developers and users are part of the Open Source Software community, users have responsibility to report problems and help ascertain what the cause is, when possible.

but he chose to just blindly attack me instead.

He didn't "blindly" attack you, You, gave first offense, now your refusing to take responsibility for it.  You want Kano to take responsibility for his offensive post, but why should he when YOU refuse?

You failed to quote my whole post - as I said, I was willing to help debug the problem, but was not afforded that opportunity.

Exactly HOW did I "give first offense"Huh  I did NOTHING but point out a problem I had.  I said NOTHING to offend anyone.  I did not know that Kano had some kind of bizarre hatred of [THE MINER THAT DARE NOT SAY ITS NAME IN THIS THREAD].  Clearly Kano read offense into a post that contained NONE.

Since you seem to possess the OSS community spirit, maybe you and I could talk about the problem in more detail, so we can identify the part where I did something stupid that resulted in my problem?

I installed the Windows binary distribution of CGMiner - 3.3.1, I believe, was the current release at that time.  I read the README, and downloaded the Zadig binary linked on page 1, and installed the WinUSB driver for my block erupters, and for my BFL devices.  I then (just to be careful) rebooted the PC.  All devices appeared to be using the correct WinUSB drivers, so I then started CGMiner.  The devices were all recognized, and seemed to function as expected.  Over the next few days, however, I found that at least one Block Erupter would stop working after, on average, ~2-3 hours.  CGMiner would be constantly printing a communications error with the failed device, and the device itself would have an LED that was fully on constantly.  Manually unplugging and re-plugging the device would fix the problem, and CGMiner would autodetect the newly-reinserted device.

So what did I do wrong?  I did not try CGMiner under Linux, but whether or not that works would not change the fact that there was a problem with the Win 7 configuration, and that is the problem I reported.

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When you have a notable antagonist like Kano involved with this project, it's hard to avoid shit talking Sad
It's actually very easy to avoid.

 I agree in theory. Unfortunately, I have an obsessive compulsion to call people on their bullshit Sad

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I installed the Windows binary distribution of CGMiner - 3.3.1, I believe, was the current release at that time.  I read the README, and downloaded the Zadig binary linked on page 1, and installed the WinUSB driver for my block erupters, and for my BFL devices.  I then (just to be careful) rebooted the PC.  All devices appeared to be using the correct WinUSB drivers, so I then started CGMiner.  The devices were all recognized, and seemed to function as expected.  Over the next few days, however, I found that at least one Block Erupter would stop working after, on average, ~2-3 hours.  CGMiner would be constantly printing a communications error with the failed device, and the device itself would have an LED that was fully on constantly.  Manually unplugging and re-plugging the device would fix the problem, and CGMiner would autodetect the newly-reinserted device.

That sounds like a hub not supplying enough power.  What hub(s) are you using and what is the current and voltage rating of the Power Supplies.

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I installed the Windows binary distribution of CGMiner - 3.3.1, I believe, was the current release at that time.  I read the README, and downloaded the Zadig binary linked on page 1, and installed the WinUSB driver for my block erupters, and for my BFL devices.  I then (just to be careful) rebooted the PC.  All devices appeared to be using the correct WinUSB drivers, so I then started CGMiner.  The devices were all recognized, and seemed to function as expected.  Over the next few days, however, I found that at least one Block Erupter would stop working after, on average, ~2-3 hours.  CGMiner would be constantly printing a communications error with the failed device, and the device itself would have an LED that was fully on constantly.  Manually unplugging and re-plugging the device would fix the problem, and CGMiner would autodetect the newly-reinserted device.

That sounds like a hub not supplying enough power.  What hub(s) are you using and what is the current and voltage rating of the Power Supplies.

Sam

The hubs are DLink DUB-H7 7-port hubs, with 5 sticks in each hub with 3A power supplies.  It's my understanding that each BE should use 0.5A, so this should provide sufficient overhead for 5 sticks.  These hubs are well-known to work well with BEs in groups of 5.

Most importantly though, they work flawlessly when attached to a Linux box running different S/W, so I think blaming the hardware is probably a dead-end.


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I have a bit of a problem.

I have 2 gpu's and 4 usb asci's

I run -o stratum.d7.lt:3333 -u xxxx -p xxxx -d 0 -d 1 -d 2 -d 3 -d 4 -d 5 --api-listen --api-port 4028 --api-allow W:127.0.0.1 -T and cgminer probes for an alive pool than crashes.

I have also tried -o stratum.d7.lt:3333 -u xxxx -p xxxx -w 256  -g 1 --thread-concurrency 6144,24000 -I 14,20 -d 0 -d 1 -d 2 -d 3 --api-listen --api-port 4029 --api-allow W:127.0.0.1 -T
to try and set up the gpu's but the same thing happens


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